UNCG, UNCW, UNCC All get more money from Raleigh

[AppDub]

I'm not so hung up on a medical school. Would rather see more engineering and technical degrees. I am 1000% for reducing the acceptance rate.

[Apptiger]

Why does App need a medical school?

To serve the western third of NC?
To raise the level of care in Boone and the rest of the community?
To help with the shortage of doctors and increase access to care?
To advance research capabilities?
To build the depth and breadth of studies offered?
To build an advanced graduate level base of programs?
To add more depth and connection to the school and enhance the overall experience and appeal of the school?
To add a professional program that adds prestige and maybe one day higher levels of giving back to the university?
To add a program that offers above average job security to its graduates?
To add more money to our base of operations and budgets?
To grow the university?

I hope it's better now but when I was in school, you had to go to Winston-Salem, Hickory or Charlotte to get anything beyond the most basic care.Think we need an engineering school too. We have demonstrated we can be the premier university in the western half of the state. It's past time NC help build that instead of restricting it.

[PoplarHillApp]

Unfortunately, with all the apartments already here and more going up, Boone is starting to look a lot like Carrboro.

[AppSt94]

Why does App need a medical school?

To serve the western third of NC?
To raise the level of care in Boone and the rest of the community?
To help with the shortage of doctors and increase access to care?
To advance research capabilities?
To build the depth and breadth of studies offered?
To build an advanced graduate level base of programs?
To add more depth and connection to the school and enhance the overall experience and appeal of the school?
To add a professional program that adds prestige and maybe one day higher levels of giving back to the university?
To add a program that offers above average job security to its graduates?
To add more money to our base of operations and budgets?
To grow the university?

I hope it's better now but when I was in school, you had to go to Winston-Salem, Hickory or Charlotte to get anything beyond the most basic care.Think we need an engineering school too. We have demonstrated we can be the premier university in the western half of the state. It's past time NC help build that instead of restricting it.

All valid reasons but I’m not sure Boone as a community would be seen as an attractive option given the population size. As to your point about potential higher level of giving back to the university; that’s certainly a perk but I don’t think that it’s realistic. People tend to give to their undergraduate alma maters versus post graduate degree programs.

[appdaze]

According to AI it takes an average of 1.7million a year to run a level 3, 2.3 million for leve 2, and 7-10million for a level 1.

Here is the map.
https://oems.nc.gov/trauma/

I would think App could strike a deal with the one in Burke County to make a med school, but as others have mentioned i doubt the legislature ever gives App one.

Can you provide more context? Are you saying it takes 7-10 million people to justify a Level I trauma center designation?

North Carolina reported 10,439,388 residents in the 2020 census, yet there are six Level I’s in the state. UNC Blue Ridge is a Level III, but it isn’t much bigger than Watauga Medical Center. App isn’t getting a medical school anytime soon, but they are developing more allied health programs.

Thats the cost in dollars to sustain one for a year. That includes supplies, salaries as specialists aren't cheap, access to a 24/7 blood bank, and 24/7 trauma care facilities. I threw those numbers out because of how expensive it is to have any level of trauma center. Hickory has 2 hospitals and neither is a trauma center of any level. People either get shipped in Winston if its bad, or Grace in Morganton for smaller issues. Charlotte is much more likely to get a med school before App. I don't think we will ever see a med school. If we want to dive into the medical world then aim for a pharmacy school.

[Bootsy]

Thanks for the clarification. Two facts emerge from this discussion:
• App’s chances of landing most of these programs is remote
• Even if App had these programs, it wouldn’t necessarily lead to increased athletic donations.

[spacemonkey]

Why does App need a medical school?

Why does ECU need one?? Better yet, why does UNC need one? Duke hospital is within 10 miles. Western North Carolina Hickory deserve a real hospital. R1 or R2 are research universities. There is a lot of research money in the hospital/medical world. Not so much in accounting....most the research on accounting has been settled. The western side of the state needs to start looking out for itself. Why would you want all of the money spent on healthcare to go to Winston or Charlotte. Hickory (Western NC) is capabable of recycling the health care money in their own community.

[appdaze]

Duke and Wake are private. Yes they have meds but the state is going to focus on government schools. Thats why UNC has med. Thays why ECU has med. Thats 2 private and 2 public med schools.

By some government maps, Hickory is not considered western NC.

A bit over 1 million live in the east to coast. 1 million in the west. 7+ in the central of NC. 3 are in what is considered central and 1 is eastern.

As far as hickory goes, Frye doesn't have the space to expand within a reasonable price point. Its also private. Catawba Valley medical is a not for profit government hospital. The state would have to fork out 20-40+million to build a new wing for a trauma center. They arent going to do that. Charlotte might get a med school and that would be considered covering the western side of the state since its only a 2 hour drive from 85% of it. The western side of the state tries to look out for itself but can be easily out voted on most topics.

App is not getting a med school.

[BallantyneApp]

The only way for App to get a med school is to convince the legislature to invest in hickory and have hickory grow as an exurb of Charlotte (possible) which provides easy access from CLT and Asheville so not bad.


Or, less likely but more interesting IMO convince the state we can administer UNCA to save $$$ and convince them Asheville is the better spot. I would move admin down to Hickory. Have App State Boone undergrad. App State Hickory as admin and grad , App State Asheville to look at professional degrees.

[AppWyo]

Maybe a medical school in Hickory for Appalachian is the reason we have a campus in Hickory now. ECU got the medical school because the state legislature did not want to give it to the state of Mecklenburg. Unlike UNC-Ch, ECU's medical school is only for instate students.

[BambooRdApp]

I do not believe that is true......you only have to have earned a bachelor's degree from a NC institution.

Legal residents of North Carolina or individuals who have earned a bachelor’s degree from a UNC System institution within the last five years are eligible for admissions consideration. All applicants must be United States citizens or United States permanent residents.

[bcoach]

Why does App need a medical school?

To serve the western third of NC?
To raise the level of care in Boone and the rest of the community?
To help with the shortage of doctors and increase access to care?
To advance research capabilities?
To build the depth and breadth of studies offered?
To build an advanced graduate level base of programs?
To add more depth and connection to the school and enhance the overall experience and appeal of the school?
To add a professional program that adds prestige and maybe one day higher levels of giving back to the university?
To add a program that offers above average job security to its graduates?
To add more money to our base of operations and budgets?
To grow the university?

I hope it's better now but when I was in school, you had to go to Winston-Salem, Hickory or Charlotte to get anything beyond the most basic care.Think we need an engineering school too. We have demonstrated we can be the premier university in the western half of the state. It's past time NC help build that instead of restricting it.

Having a medical school in a given area does not mean the graduates will stay there.

[AppWyo]

Why does App need a medical school?

To serve the western third of NC?
To raise the level of care in Boone and the rest of the community?
To help with the shortage of doctors and increase access to care?
To advance research capabilities?
To build the depth and breadth of studies offered?
To build an advanced graduate level base of programs?
To add more depth and connection to the school and enhance the overall experience and appeal of the school?
To add a professional program that adds prestige and maybe one day higher levels of giving back to the university?
To add a program that offers above average job security to its graduates?
To add more money to our base of operations and budgets?
To grow the university?

I hope it's better now but when I was in school, you had to go to Winston-Salem, Hickory or Charlotte to get anything beyond the most basic care.Think we need an engineering school too. We have demonstrated we can be the premier university in the western half of the state. It's past time NC help build that instead of restricting it.

Having a medical school in a given area does not mean the graduates will stay there.

They might be required to stay in the area for a time to pay back their fellowship or loan once they graduate.

[Stonewall]

There are multiple options being discussed and we are involved in those discussions , both in Raleigh and closer to home.

[Stonewall]

Why does App need a medical school?

To serve the western third of NC?
To raise the level of care in Boone and the rest of the community?
To help with the shortage of doctors and increase access to care?
To advance research capabilities?
To build the depth and breadth of studies offered?
To build an advanced graduate level base of programs?
To add more depth and connection to the school and enhance the overall experience and appeal of the school?
To add a professional program that adds prestige and maybe one day higher levels of giving back to the university?
To add a program that offers above average job security to its graduates?
To add more money to our base of operations and budgets?
To grow the university?

I hope it's better now but when I was in school, you had to go to Winston-Salem, Hickory or Charlotte to get anything beyond the most basic care.Think we need an engineering school too. We have demonstrated we can be the premier university in the western half of the state. It's past time NC help build that instead of restricting it.

As of today, we are in the fight !

[AppWyo]

I do not believe Appalachian needs an engineering school. I believe our sustainable development program thrives because our sustainable development majors are not burdened by thinking like an engineer.

[BallantyneApp]

Why does App need a medical school?

To serve the western third of NC?
To raise the level of care in Boone and the rest of the community?
To help with the shortage of doctors and increase access to care?
To advance research capabilities?
To build the depth and breadth of studies offered?
To build an advanced graduate level base of programs?
To add more depth and connection to the school and enhance the overall experience and appeal of the school?
To add a professional program that adds prestige and maybe one day higher levels of giving back to the university?
To add a program that offers above average job security to its graduates?
To add more money to our base of operations and budgets?
To grow the university?

I hope it's better now but when I was in school, you had to go to Winston-Salem, Hickory or Charlotte to get anything beyond the most basic care.Think we need an engineering school too. We have demonstrated we can be the premier university in the western half of the state. It's past time NC help build that instead of restricting it.

As of today, we are in the fight !

I know there are a lot of moving parts but this would be quite the coup for the admin if they pulled it off.

[Stonewall]

We have a real shot.

[BallantyneApp]

We have a real shot.

We need someone willing to put down a foundational gift. There are only a few in our sphere capable.

I wish we could tap more into the Fl seasonal population.

[Stonewall]

We are at the peak of our political power. Up to now anyway. Next year could double it.