G6 Playoff

[spacemonkey]

I wish someone with some $en$e would see the money in an NIT football tournament and keep the g6 CFP spot and create an NIT for the conference champions who did not make the tournament with some invited teams to create a 16 team playoff. Make it part of the CFP contract that TEAMS FROM THE P4 MUST PARTICIPATE in the NIT tournament to be eligible for the CFP the next year.

That being said...what makes them stop at football. I am sure baseball and basketball will be next.

Not sure that makes as much sense as you think. The NIT basketball tournament is on life support as it is. Even if you required teams to participate, it wouldn't stop players skipping it en masse to enter the portal or the draft.

I get what you are saying, but it is going to become part of a job of the schools/coach to figure out which players will play and which will quit on the team. NIT would matter if it were the conference champions who did not make the CFP playoff and P4 teams that agreed to participate. I would be more interested in an NIT trophy vs a G6 trophy (With the G6 missing it's best team to the CFP playoff...hopefully)

[JTApps1]

Changing the rules so more 5-7 teams can compete in bowl games with unclaimed bids:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... bowl-games

Easy button: in lieu of changing the rules, maybe ditch some of the lower-tier bowl games…since no one wants to watch them in the first place?

How about less bowls since half the players don't even care now?

Yeah, that's the much bigger issue. If it were true that no one wants to watch them, then they would in fact go away, since filling airtime is their primary purpose (and many of the lower-tier games are owned and operated by ESPN). Even the worst bowl games get solid ratings.

Fixing the system to address opt outs is the much bigger deal. Spending millions of dollars building a roster, then playing all year to get to the postseason, only to have so many teams bring a skeleton crew when they get there is a horrible system.

I wonder how long that demand will remain given how depleted the rosters are getting?

[AtlAppMan]

GP playoff and bowls outside of CFP are just for partying.

A lot of players are opting out of bowls and some even CFP games because they view it in their own personal interest. That make bowls merely a pride thing and an opportunity to go party. Let's just call them what they are. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we understand. Also this is why wins in bowls are not comparable to regular season.

I don't even want to see us in a 2-3 game G6 playoff in late Dec/early Jan for a meaningless trophy. Can you imagine the attendance (or lack thereof)?

I don't see it, just do our best to get in CFP and then everybody else go to a bowl and party.

[EastHallApp]

GP playoff and bowls outside of CFP are just for partying.

A lot of players are opting out of bowls and some even CFP games because they view it in their own personal interest. That make bowls merely a pride thing and an opportunity to go party. Let's just call them what they are. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we understand. Also this is why wins in bowls are not comparable to regular season.

I don't even want to see us in a 2-3 game G6 playoff in late Dec/early Jan for a meaningless trophy. Can you imagine the attendance (or lack thereof)?

I don't see it, just do our best to get in CFP and then everybody else go to a bowl and party.

Agree, as I noted above. But also, for those who don't like this idea, make no mistake: App competed their asses off in every one of those bowl games before the portal era. Those wins meant something to them, as they did to us fans. Winning a bowl game was right up there with winning the conference as one of the team's primary goals each year. Being 6-0 in bowl games at one point was a huge point of pride for this program.

There have certainly been some teams over the years who didn't bring their best to bowl games. But by and large, I think most teams have embraced the chance to compete on that stage.

Getting back to a point where players aren't opting out and people don't think bowl games are "meaningless" will require some reforms, but I think it's possible. Whether the will exists to do so, I'm not so sure.

[Bootsy]

GP playoff and bowls outside of CFP are just for partying.

A lot of players are opting out of bowls and some even CFP games because they view it in their own personal interest. That make bowls merely a pride thing and an opportunity to go party. Let's just call them what they are. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we understand. Also this is why wins in bowls are not comparable to regular season.

I don't even want to see us in a 2-3 game G6 playoff in late Dec/early Jan for a meaningless trophy. Can you imagine the attendance (or lack thereof)?

I don't see it, just do our best to get in CFP and then everybody else go to a bowl and party.

Agree, as I noted above. But also, for those who don't like this idea, make no mistake: App competed their asses off in every one of those bowl games before the portal era. Those wins meant something to them, as they did to us fans. Winning a bowl game was right up there with winning the conference as one of the team's primary goals each year. Being 6-0 in bowl games at one point was a huge point of pride for this program.

There have certainly been some teams over the years who didn't bring their best to bowl games. But by and large, I think most teams have embraced the chance to compete on that stage.

Getting back to a point where players aren't opting out and people don't think bowl games are "meaningless" will require some reforms, but I think it's possible. Whether the will exists to do so, I'm not so sure.

There are many who truly want to see reforms, but those who have the power to effect that change have no desire to do so.

[AtlAppMan]

GP playoff and bowls outside of CFP are just for partying.

A lot of players are opting out of bowls and some even CFP games because they view it in their own personal interest. That make bowls merely a pride thing and an opportunity to go party. Let's just call them what they are. There is nothing wrong with that as long as we understand. Also this is why wins in bowls are not comparable to regular season.

I don't even want to see us in a 2-3 game G6 playoff in late Dec/early Jan for a meaningless trophy. Can you imagine the attendance (or lack thereof)?

I don't see it, just do our best to get in CFP and then everybody else go to a bowl and party.

Agree, as I noted above. But also, for those who don't like this idea, make no mistake: App competed their asses off in every one of those bowl games before the portal era. Those wins meant something to them, as they did to us fans. Winning a bowl game was right up there with winning the conference as one of the team's primary goals each year. Being 6-0 in bowl games at one point was a huge point of pride for this program.

There have certainly been some teams over the years who didn't bring their best to bowl games. But by and large, I think most teams have embraced the chance to compete on that stage.

Getting back to a point where players aren't opting out and people don't think bowl games are "meaningless" will require some reforms, but I think it's possible. Whether the will exists to do so, I'm not so sure.

Totally agree with you. To clarify, when I say the W/L are muddied, I mean due to recent events as you said. They were much more meaningful prior to last few years when most players took them seriously as a pride and representative of their school perspective. IMO, I don't think we will ever get back to that point. I still like the idea of having teams have that one last time on the field regardless.

[APPdiesel]

Those in power only want to do right by the schools and conferences that will make them the most money. They don’t care about the conferences that lose something when changes happen. That is the problem. If they said we’re changing the college football playoff and we’re gonna build you a tournament of your own and support the hell out of it then it would be a viable option worth exploring.

[AppWyo]

We will start to have a real problem when players are paid not to play.

[BambooRdApp]

They already are.. behind the scenes

[Mjohn1988]

I was firmly against this until NIL and the portal came into existence. Completely changed my mind.

Give me the G6 playoff yesterday.
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How many players will enter the portal and opt out of the playoffs?

[Yosef1986]

Like it or not - college football is a great example of have and have nots. This will not change in the future. The haves generate the most revenue and will always have preferential treatment. What bugs me is the teams that have no business in the P4 conversation - they are only in the conversation because of affiliations that date back 50 years. Not earned - right place at the right time.

No real opinion on the G5 playoff.

[spacemonkey]

Like it or not - college football is a great example of have and have nots. This will not change in the future. The haves generate the most revenue and will always have preferential treatment. What bugs me is the teams that have no business in the P4 conversation - they are only in the conversation because of affiliations that date back 50 years. Not earned - right place at the right time.

No real opinion on the G5 playoff.

We are one good recession from the haves (Duke, UNC, Texas, Alabama) walmart fans not being willing to pay to see their team. It will be interesting to see what ESPN does when they stop collecting the cable package espn fee. It is going to get worst. Cord cutting has not really been hit by a real recession. 2008 was the last deep recession. I think it will be interesting which monthly fees stick in the next recession. I do $OK$ and I see my netflix, spotify, HBO and Sirius satelite being in trouble. I will keep my ESPN because I like to watch App. But if App went away from ESPN my ESPN/Disney Bundle would be cut IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!

P.S. I think the southern walmart fan will get hit the hardest....think Alabama, Mississipi, Georgia, Florida, Clemson, South Carolina.

[Bootsy]

I can only imagine what JCline would say about all of this.

[AppSt94]

What I find interesting is that higher education institutions operate with social agendas of equality and the current athletics model of these same institutions do not operate under the same model of equality.

[Saint3333]

They actually believe in equity vs. equality to further your point.

[AppSt94]

They actually believe in equity vs. equality to further your point.

Thanks. I was trying to tread lightly to avoid this thread getting nuked.

[Stonewall]

Interesting conversation this morning, Duke talking to Big Ten schools individually. Second hand info for what it’s worth.

[AppWyo]

Interesting conversation this morning, Duke talking to Big Ten schools individually. Second hand info for what it’s worth.

https://wtop.com/ncaa-basketball/2026/0 ... -pushback/

Not secondhand news... news actually.