Executive Order for College Sports

[appdaze]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

[BambooRdApp]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

College football is a niche profession. How many young men play college football? Much less in numbers compared to the number of partners in law firms and partners in CPA firms across 'Merica.
Compensation is just made directly by the customer (fan) versus indirectly through a corporate wage. "Insurance" is paid via the the school as I have never heard of a player paying for an ACL surgery on their own.

[AppStFan1]

The power schools don’t want contracts, shift just a small bit of leverage to other schools. Power they don’t want to lose.

Yeah it is the power schools who don’t but we need them with buyouts. This is where you need really good recruiting people to know how good the players they bring in are. You don’t want a 2-3 year deal with a bad player but if you got it with a good player then the buyout helps. G6 schools need multi-year contracts.

[Saint3333]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

[BambooRdApp]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

Every partner that I know at their respective law firm or CPA firm has to give a year's notice. Otherwise, they are subject to be penalized for their respective payouts. The firm can play nice and acquiesce on certain terms. In addition, the noncompetes are 1-4 years depending on longevity with the firm as a partner.

[AppStFan1]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Like someone else said, 3 years is extreme but 1 year is not extreme at all. I have actually seen a full 1-year non-compete clauses for people I know and I have been given a contract offer with a 2-year non-compete clause before. I fought it like crazy and did not sign it but it was in my initial contract offer I got back in 2019. It does happen. It is the norm in some work fields but definitely not in others. I think depends on how valued you are and if you are in a situation where you could take information and screw the company over competing with them very easily. I personally think if someone wants that clause for you that they should have to pay you for the non-compete though.

[APPdiesel]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

My job contract in radio has a non-compete clause and it’s completely legal. I can’t leave my job and work at a competitor in the same radio market for 6 months. Theoretically it’s to stop me from sharing company secrets or intel. It’s like when schools were hesitant to release players to transfer to conference foes. In radio it’s rarely enforced but there is precedent.

[scatman77]

While this government intrusion is admirable I think there should be more enforcement of academic rules: 1) every athlete has to complete a four-year degree and do it in 5 years maximum; 2) after that eligibility is exhausted

[AppStFan1]

At least someone is attempting use common sense.

Imagine someone told you if you wanted to switch jobs you would have to sit out a year first.

Imagine a group of people who are about free market pushing a law that limits the abilities of the labor to earn more money.

Imagine a group of people who believe in small government using government to control a labor market.

Imagine a fan walking up to a 21 year old man and telling them that they cant transfer to Ohio state to make 2 million more dollars because you believe in the farce of amateurism.

Yea....do I like what its doing to college sports? No. Could I sit here and absolutely trash the attempts to control the labor of college sports by grown adults who dont want other grown adults to be able to work for the value the free market is willing to give them? Yes.

You either believe in a free market or you don't.

Yea.....this will be lawsuited away.

My job contract in radio has a non-compete clause and it’s completely legal. I can’t leave my job and work at a competitor in the same radio market for 6 months. Theoretically it’s to stop me from sharing company secrets or intel. It’s like when schools were hesitant to release players to transfer to conference foes. In radio it’s rarely enforced but there is precedent.

As an employee you want to fight it if you can but it is very much to prevent someone from taking company info to a competitor. I am not someone who would use access from one company to hurt them later but I get why they are concerned with it. There are many who would do it.

[t4pizza]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

Every partner that I know at their respective law firm or CPA firm has to give a year's notice. Otherwise, they are subject to be penalized for their respective payouts. The firm can play nice and acquiesce on certain terms. In addition, the noncompetes are 1-4 years depending on longevity with the firm as a partner.

There are no non-competes in law firms, courts have ruled that it violates a person's right to have a lawyer of their choice (Judges protecting lawyers). Some firms may have penalties for leaving, but it is not in the form of a non-compete. Doctors often have non-competes of 3 years in length, so that duration is not unusual at all.

[t4pizza]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Like someone else said, 3 years is extreme but 1 year is not extreme at all. I have actually seen a full 1-year non-compete clauses for people I know and I have been given a contract offer with a 2-year non-compete clause before. I fought it like crazy and did not sign it but it was in my initial contract offer I got back in 2019. It does happen. It is the norm in some work fields but definitely not in others. I think depends on how valued you are and if you are in a situation where you could take information and screw the company over competing with them very easily. I personally think if someone wants that clause for you that they should have to pay you for the non-compete though.

The length of the non-compete really depends on the type of job, doctors often have 3 years and there are many engineering firms that require at least 3 years as well.

[BambooRdApp]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

Every partner that I know at their respective law firm or CPA firm has to give a year's notice. Otherwise, they are subject to be penalized for their respective payouts. The firm can play nice and acquiesce on certain terms. In addition, the noncompetes are 1-4 years depending on longevity with the firm as a partner.

There are no non-competes in law firms, courts have ruled that it violates a person's right to have a lawyer of their choice (Judges protecting lawyers). Some firms may have penalties for leaving, but it is not in the form of a non-compete. Doctors often have non-competes of 3 years in length, so that duration is not unusual at all.

Label it as whatever term you like. Same desired result.

[AppStFan1]

Imagine having to give a years notice to leave your company or firm. Imagine having a non-compete agreement for 1, 2, 3 years.
Yes, I can. It happens in corporate America on the daily.

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Like someone else said, 3 years is extreme but 1 year is not extreme at all. I have actually seen a full 1-year non-compete clauses for people I know and I have been given a contract offer with a 2-year non-compete clause before. I fought it like crazy and did not sign it but it was in my initial contract offer I got back in 2019. It does happen. It is the norm in some work fields but definitely not in others. I think depends on how valued you are and if you are in a situation where you could take information and screw the company over competing with them very easily. I personally think if someone wants that clause for you that they should have to pay you for the non-compete though.

The length of the non-compete really depends on the type of job, doctors often have 3 years and there are many engineering firms that require at least 3 years as well.

I have seen it vary in my field so I figured the factors I said dictated that but makes sense that some fields have a larger window than others for the clause as well.

[Bootsy]

While im sure it exists in very niche positions, ive never come across a position that required a full year notice or non-compete agreements that went more that 6-8 months. Extreme cases hit a year or so but those are not the norm. But, if you are going to hold thrm to the standards of the business world then you have to do it in all aspects including contracts, payments, insurance, etc...

Thats the issue when I keep seeing people day...but in so and so world.....

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

Every partner that I know at their respective law firm or CPA firm has to give a year's notice. Otherwise, they are subject to be penalized for their respective payouts. The firm can play nice and acquiesce on certain terms. In addition, the noncompetes are 1-4 years depending on longevity with the firm as a partner.

There are no non-competes in law firms, courts have ruled that it violates a person's right to have a lawyer of their choice (Judges protecting lawyers). Some firms may have penalties for leaving, but it is not in the form of a non-compete. Doctors often have non-competes of 3 years in length, so that duration is not unusual at all.

Label it as whatever term you like. Same desired result.

And it doesn’t get anyone any closer to fixing the goat rodeo known as college sports.

[BambooRdApp]

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

Every partner that I know at their respective law firm or CPA firm has to give a year's notice. Otherwise, they are subject to be penalized for their respective payouts. The firm can play nice and acquiesce on certain terms. In addition, the noncompetes are 1-4 years depending on longevity with the firm as a partner.

There are no non-competes in law firms, courts have ruled that it violates a person's right to have a lawyer of their choice (Judges protecting lawyers). Some firms may have penalties for leaving, but it is not in the form of a non-compete. Doctors often have non-competes of 3 years in length, so that duration is not unusual at all.

Label it as whatever term you like. Same desired result.

And it doesn’t get anyone any closer to fixing the goat rodeo known as college sports.

Next event after a baseball game!!
College baseball needs to embrace minor league. Potato sack races. Race Yosef around the bases between innings

[Saint3333]

Extreme cases would be closer to three years. One year is very common. I negotiate these very often.

Every partner that I know at their respective law firm or CPA firm has to give a year's notice. Otherwise, they are subject to be penalized for their respective payouts. The firm can play nice and acquiesce on certain terms. In addition, the noncompetes are 1-4 years depending on longevity with the firm as a partner.

There are no non-competes in law firms, courts have ruled that it violates a person's right to have a lawyer of their choice (Judges protecting lawyers). Some firms may have penalties for leaving, but it is not in the form of a non-compete. Doctors often have non-competes of 3 years in length, so that duration is not unusual at all.

Label it as whatever term you like. Same desired result.

And it doesn’t get anyone any closer to fixing the goat rodeo known as college sports.

Puzzled - it certainly would be a step in the right direction, and at worse forces the conversation to something better than existed before the EO.

[rbarthle17]

Will these rules apply to coaches as well?

Coaches actually have buyouts in their deals so I say let's treat both the same and put buyouts on the players as well. App should get 100k every time a P4 wants one of our players and 50k from a G6 school. We have to put the education first and transferring 5 times is not good for graduating on time. We have a system developing future adults with the life lesson that if things are not perfect or adversity comes you just run and that is not a good lesson. I am not advocating for what we had before but I am advocating for true NIL, not pay to play, and a system where there is some order instead of this chaos.

Capitalism for me, but not for thee, is a bad look.

[boonetown1]

I don’t fully understand why we’re going back and forth on non competes in corporate America. College football has turned into a professional sport, and that’s really the only comparison you need. Women’s soccer, nfl, mlb, nba, etc… all have contracts; most of which are multi year where they can only be renewed once a year.

[mike87]

I don’t fully understand why we’re going back and forth on non competes in corporate America. College football has turned into a professional sport, and that’s really the only comparison you need. Women’s soccer, nfl, mlb, nba, etc… all have contracts; most of which are multi year where they can only be renewed once a year.

You don't understand why this board is nit-picking at an unrelated topic?

[appdaze]

I don’t fully understand why we’re going back and forth on non competes in corporate America. College football has turned into a professional sport, and that’s really the only comparison you need. Women’s soccer, nfl, mlb, nba, etc… all have contracts; most of which are multi year where they can only be renewed once a year.

To try to find any way possible to look down on the position the players/labor are in, to try and make any excuse possible to keep their entertainment the way they want it, instead of giving proper value to the labor that makes it happen. It's all about justification of the "old ways."